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Ministerpräsidentin von Rheinland-Pfalz. Malu Dreyer „Das erschüttert die Grundfeste der Kirche und auch mich ganz persönlich“
Interview · Die Ministerpräsidentin von Rheinland Pfalz, Malu Dreyer (SPD), zur Diskussion über Corona-Lockerungen, die katholische Kirche, die Flutgebiete und die Debatte um die Impfpflicht.

Die Ministerpräsidentin von Rheinland-Pfalz, Malu Dreyer (SPD).
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